New Japan Pro Wrestling - Discussão Geral
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Leo C- ROH Tag Team Champion
- Número de Mensagens : 1914
Idade : 28
Localização : Brasil
Emprego/lazer : マダオ
Data de inscrição : 31/08/2015
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Guilherme- ROH Tag Team Champion
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Idade : 24
Localização : Brasil
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Data de inscrição : 24/01/2015
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Boa ideiaJustt escreveu:Assisti todas as New Japan Rambo nessa madrugada. Recomendo.
Leo C- ROH Tag Team Champion
- Número de Mensagens : 1914
Idade : 28
Localização : Brasil
Emprego/lazer : マダオ
Data de inscrição : 31/08/2015
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Leo C- ROH Tag Team Champion
- Número de Mensagens : 1914
Idade : 28
Localização : Brasil
Emprego/lazer : マダオ
Data de inscrição : 31/08/2015
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Leo C escreveu:Mutoh vs Takada do Dome 96 é a perfeita match entre um pro wrestler e um MMA guy (sim, a UWF era workada mas vcs entenderam).
Não não é. Especialmente com o Muto em claro modo "fuck this shit, I ain't selling anything good".
Esse combate que tu queres é o Takada vs Hashimoto no Battle Formation 96.
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Vou admitir que realmente vi muito poucas matches do gênero e já saí falando que essa foi perfeita mas realmente achei muito bom combate, desde o mat wrestling onde o Mutoh tentava um pinfall e o Takada sempre procurava uma submission, dos reversals dos kicks para o Dragon Screw, e a batalha entre o Mutoh com a hold mais wacky que existe (Figure 4) e o Takada com o Heel Hook (inclusive o reversal do Takada de uma pra outra foi fantástico), e o finish onde o Takada deu margem pro Mutoh escapar do armbar pois só havia o pego com uma mão de maneira meio cocky, mas logo em seguida ele fecha o armbar segurando com as duas mãos e é o fim. Achei que retrataram de maneira excelente o clash of styles.Fundertaker escreveu:Leo C escreveu:Mutoh vs Takada do Dome 96 é a perfeita match entre um pro wrestler e um MMA guy (sim, a UWF era workada mas vcs entenderam).
Não não é. Especialmente com o Muto em claro modo "fuck this shit, I ain't selling anything good".
Esse combate que tu queres é o Takada vs Hashimoto no Battle Formation 96.
Essa match com o Hashimoto é onde ele vence o Takada pelo belt? Eu estava justamente pensando em assisti-la pois fizeram o setup logo após a vitória do Takada no Dome.
Leo C- ROH Tag Team Champion
- Número de Mensagens : 1914
Idade : 28
Localização : Brasil
Emprego/lazer : マダオ
Data de inscrição : 31/08/2015
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Leo C- ROH Tag Team Champion
- Número de Mensagens : 1914
Idade : 28
Localização : Brasil
Emprego/lazer : マダオ
Data de inscrição : 31/08/2015
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Justt escreveu:Assisti todas as New Japan Rambo nessa madrugada. Recomendo.
Linques?
Moore- NXT Champion
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Dave says that whenever Omega/Ibushi happens, given their history and the fan anticipation, that it should be "a special spotlight match," not in the G1, and "at least a Sumo Hall, big-time match."
To which Kenny replied, "I mean, that was always our hope. We had kind of said, after Budokan, you know, we're never going to come back to this again. We're done, we can't... if we try to one-up this, we're gonna kill each other, but the game has really changed, and New Japan allows for a complete different style. So, we are, of course, we're open to it. But both of us have turned down, I guess, for lack of a better term, just multiple sort-of shotgun attempts at putting that match together. Because we both feel it has to be special."
"When it's going to happen, and where, we don't know. But there have at least been three times now, where we just didn't feel it was the right timing, and it was just, kinda just tossed together, like 'hey, we need a good match, you guys go at it.'"
When Alvarez asked Kenny if he believed that New Japan didn't see the value in the match that Kenny does, he replied:
"Um, the way that I had gathered it, was that, our history, generally, Ibushi and my history, was from our time in DDT. There are many fans that understand it, and even during my time in DDT, I was a lender talent, so I was able to do Best of Super Juniors, we had done the junior tags together, Ibushi and myself, we had some great matches against Apollo 55... and... they, the way that they look at it, is that, it's kind of... it's kind of from a, a past that they don't want to go back to, and they don't have any official involvement with DDT, so they don't want to remind fans that there was this time when they were both in DDT, and that they were this DDT tag-team."
"They kind of want to, sort of be, you know, 'we're New Japan, and this is our own thing, and Kenny Omega as far as we're concerned, was born as The Cleaner in New Japan, and now Ibushi coming back is this new Ibushi, and that's it. What happened before doesn't really matter,' but they're slowly realizing that people do remember this history. And even if they don't, even if they weren't there to see it, the fans are, they're finding the study material. They're looking back, they're seeing that there is this connection, that there is this relationship. And now they're thinking twice about, just kind of tossing the match together because it's two athletic guys, now it's like 'oh, there's actual feelings involved.' And, I keep telling them, this is a chance to really, hit home with an emotionally impactful match, rather than just, 'ok, you got a guy that's a great high-flyer and a guy that throws some knees,' it has to be more than just that, it has to be."
Ribeiro- WWE Tag Team Champion
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Diabo escreveu:Dave says that whenever Omega/Ibushi happens, given their history and the fan anticipation, that it should be "a special spotlight match," not in the G1, and "at least a Sumo Hall, big-time match."
To which Kenny replied, "I mean, that was always our hope. We had kind of said, after Budokan, you know, we're never going to come back to this again. We're done, we can't... if we try to one-up this, we're gonna kill each other, but the game has really changed, and New Japan allows for a complete different style. So, we are, of course, we're open to it. But both of us have turned down, I guess, for lack of a better term, just multiple sort-of shotgun attempts at putting that match together. Because we both feel it has to be special."
"When it's going to happen, and where, we don't know. But there have at least been three times now, where we just didn't feel it was the right timing, and it was just, kinda just tossed together, like 'hey, we need a good match, you guys go at it.'"
When Alvarez asked Kenny if he believed that New Japan didn't see the value in the match that Kenny does, he replied:
"Um, the way that I had gathered it, was that, our history, generally, Ibushi and my history, was from our time in DDT. There are many fans that understand it, and even during my time in DDT, I was a lender talent, so I was able to do Best of Super Juniors, we had done the junior tags together, Ibushi and myself, we had some great matches against Apollo 55... and... they, the way that they look at it, is that, it's kind of... it's kind of from a, a past that they don't want to go back to, and they don't have any official involvement with DDT, so they don't want to remind fans that there was this time when they were both in DDT, and that they were this DDT tag-team."
"They kind of want to, sort of be, you know, 'we're New Japan, and this is our own thing, and Kenny Omega as far as we're concerned, was born as The Cleaner in New Japan, and now Ibushi coming back is this new Ibushi, and that's it. What happened before doesn't really matter,' but they're slowly realizing that people do remember this history. And even if they don't, even if they weren't there to see it, the fans are, they're finding the study material. They're looking back, they're seeing that there is this connection, that there is this relationship. And now they're thinking twice about, just kind of tossing the match together because it's two athletic guys, now it's like 'oh, there's actual feelings involved.' And, I keep telling them, this is a chance to really, hit home with an emotionally impactful match, rather than just, 'ok, you got a guy that's a great high-flyer and a guy that throws some knees,' it has to be more than just that, it has to be."
Eu acho que a NJPW sabe muito bem da backstory dos dois e tem guardado essa carta na manga. Acho que isso é Kenny workando os geeks do reddit e fazendo suspense para que haja maior reação quando Ibushi escolher ele depois de vencer a NJ Cup ou algo do gênero.
Leo C- ROH Tag Team Champion
- Número de Mensagens : 1914
Idade : 28
Localização : Brasil
Emprego/lazer : マダオ
Data de inscrição : 31/08/2015
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