EVOLVE | WWN: Discussão Geral
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Mas curtia saber como há criticas ao Thatcher vs. Gulak se ainda só hoje é que irá acontecer
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AR escreveu:O Thatcher está a ter um ano bem melhor do que diz, o pessoal é que se lembrou de o começar a odiar porque sim. Já o combate anterior entre eles foi porreiro, mas falavam nele como se fosse a pior coisa do mundo.
Mas curtia saber como há criticas ao Thatcher vs. Gulak se ainda só hoje é que irá acontecer
Oh, enganei-me, pareceu-me ter lido Gulak mas afinal era o Page
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- Resultados EVOLVE 70:
- 1. Darby Allin venceu Anthony Henry
2. Nathan Cruz venceu Jason Kincaid
3. Fred Yehi venceu DUSTIN
4. The Gatekeepers venceram dois jobbers
5. EVOLVE Championship: Timothy Thatcher (c) venceu Ethan Page
6. Zack Sabre Jr. venceu Tracy Williams
7. Chris Hero venceu Drew Gulak
8. Matt Riddle defeated AR Fox
- Resultados EVOLVE 71:
- 1. Non-Title Fight To The Finish: Drew Gulak venceu Timothy Thatcher
2. Tracy Williams venceu Jason Kincaid
3. The Gatekeepers venceram dois jobbers
4. Ethan Page venceu Sami Callihan
5. DUSTIN venceu Darby Allin
6. Zack Sabre Jr. venceu Fred Yehi
7. Chris Hero defeated Matt Riddle
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Renato escreveu:
- Resultados EVOLVE 70:
1. Darby Allin venceu Anthony Henry
2. Nathan Cruz venceu Jason Kincaid
3. Fred Yehi venceu DUSTIN
4. The Gatekeepers venceram dois jobbers
5. EVOLVE Championship: Timothy Thatcher (c) venceu Ethan Page
6. Zack Sabre Jr. venceu Tracy Williams
7. Chris Hero venceu Drew Gulak
8. Matt Riddle defeated AR Fox
- Resultados EVOLVE 71:
1. Non-Title Fight To The Finish: Drew Gulak venceu Timothy Thatcher
2. Tracy Williams venceu Jason Kincaid
3. The Gatekeepers venceram dois jobbers
4. Ethan Page venceu Sami Callihan
5. DUSTIN venceu Darby Allin
6. Zack Sabre Jr. venceu Fred Yehi
7. Chris Hero defeated Matt Riddle
Hero teve um fim de semana muito bom, adorei as matches dele. Gostei que ele será um obstáculo que o Riddle vai ter que ultrapassar na sua jornada. As matches do Zack também foram boas, apesar de que a do Tracy especialmente achei que foi mais longa do que devia. Thatcher vs Page foi meh até o final, onde a crowd finalmente reagiu para alguma coisa, e Thatcher vs Gulak... bom, foi crowd brawling por uns 10 minutos, uns 3 moves e um finish fica difícil de classificar, mas foi legal de ver. Kincaid me impressionou mais no TPT no começo do ano do que nesse fds. Em geral dois bons shows.
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Na realidade, o Sabre é bem mais versátil e se calhar a comparação é parva - mas isso agora não interessa nada
Gabe sobre Riddle:
"I'm going to peel back the curtain now. It's not something I'm a fan of doing, but I have to in order to convey how I feel about Matt Riddle.
When I heard about Matt in the Fall last year, I was intrigued because of his UFC background. We gave him a shot. I figured if he wasn't up to the level of EVOLVE, at the worst case scenario we give him a couple of weekends worth of wins and then have Timothy Thatcher beat him in an EVOLVE Title defense. I liked the idea of Thatcher getting credibility by beating the UFC guy that is undefeated.
He was booked very carefully in his first weekend. In fact, he was booked just about as carefully as we ever booked anyone. He was given two opponents proficient in mat wrestling/grappling in Jonathan Gresham and Chris Dickinson. The matches were kept very short with very few spots. The idea was just let them wrestle a little on the mat and go to the quick submission finish. Keep it simple and easy.
The next weekend we played it safe by putting Riddle against Drew Gulak and Tracy Williams, two highly skilled opponents he could train with before the weekend and work out two matches that were a little more complex, but still relatively short and simple.
This is how you protect a "green" talent in the booking.
Last weekend was the opposite of "protecting" a talent. Last weekend at EVOLVE 62 and EVOLVE 63, we put Matt Riddle against Cedric Alexander and Trevor Lee.
Alexander and Lee are two exciting, great talents who do a lot of stuff in their matches. My instructions were simple. Go out there for about 12-15 minutes and steal the show. That was it.
Matt Riddle, with less than 75 pro wrestling matches under his belt, went toe-to-toe with these two indie style standouts and matched them move-for-move. There was no protecting him. No keeping it simple. No safeguards.
There has never been anyone as good as Matt Riddle with as little experience as he has. Never. Ever.
We are all watching a special talent grow and develop before our eyes. We are on this ride together and it's only going to get more wild and exciting. I hope you are all enjoying it as much as I am.
Matt Riddle has arrived. A star is born.
There's no playing it safe anymore
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AR escreveu:Ainda só vi, Thatcher vs. Gulak e foi nice. Acho uma piada do caralh*, agora o pessoal só achar fixe que o Thatcher tenha combates fora da sua praia, porque sim. Caso se chamasse Zack Sabre Jr. era tranquilo e era o maior.
Na realidade, o Sabre é bem mais versátil e se calhar a comparação é parva - mas isso agora não interessa nada
Gabe sobre Riddle:"I'm going to peel back the curtain now. It's not something I'm a fan of doing, but I have to in order to convey how I feel about Matt Riddle.
When I heard about Matt in the Fall last year, I was intrigued because of his UFC background. We gave him a shot. I figured if he wasn't up to the level of EVOLVE, at the worst case scenario we give him a couple of weekends worth of wins and then have Timothy Thatcher beat him in an EVOLVE Title defense. I liked the idea of Thatcher getting credibility by beating the UFC guy that is undefeated.
He was booked very carefully in his first weekend. In fact, he was booked just about as carefully as we ever booked anyone. He was given two opponents proficient in mat wrestling/grappling in Jonathan Gresham and Chris Dickinson. The matches were kept very short with very few spots. The idea was just let them wrestle a little on the mat and go to the quick submission finish. Keep it simple and easy.
The next weekend we played it safe by putting Riddle against Drew Gulak and Tracy Williams, two highly skilled opponents he could train with before the weekend and work out two matches that were a little more complex, but still relatively short and simple.
This is how you protect a "green" talent in the booking.
Last weekend was the opposite of "protecting" a talent. Last weekend at EVOLVE 62 and EVOLVE 63, we put Matt Riddle against Cedric Alexander and Trevor Lee.
Alexander and Lee are two exciting, great talents who do a lot of stuff in their matches. My instructions were simple. Go out there for about 12-15 minutes and steal the show. That was it.
Matt Riddle, with less than 75 pro wrestling matches under his belt, went toe-to-toe with these two indie style standouts and matched them move-for-move. There was no protecting him. No keeping it simple. No safeguards.
There has never been anyone as good as Matt Riddle with as little experience as he has. Never. Ever.
We are all watching a special talent grow and develop before our eyes. We are on this ride together and it's only going to get more wild and exciting. I hope you are all enjoying it as much as I am.
Matt Riddle has arrived. A star is born.
There's no playing it safe anymore
Isso do Riddle é fato... ele foi MUITO rápido de "bom para o seu nível de experiência" para simplesmente "muito bom".
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O mais interessante, é que provavelmente Riddle acabará por resultar na WWE - pelo menos no NXT. Primeiro porque é um gajo legit e que teve alguma exposição na UFC e como tal acabará por ser pushado, mas a verdade é que ele têm muitas coisas que o podem ajudar a capitalizar o seu push. Além de ser óptimo no ringue, look awesome, sabe falar e desenvolveu uma persona awesome que me faz lembrar um RVD das MMA.
Um programa Nakamura vs. Riddle seria ouro.
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Thatcher vs. Gulak nice, mas brawl meio weird. Acaba por ser o pior Gulak vs. Thatcher e está longe de ser mau, mas o pessoal já curtiu porque agora meteram na cabeça que o Thatcher têm de ter combates diferentes. Qualquer dia querem que seja um luchador e use mascara. Miúdas a atirarem guito ao Thatcher foi tão weird
Here's an unseen angle of the @DarbyAllin Coffin Drop on @SexyChuckieT from the top of a support beam at #EVOLVE71 @BookItGabe @TAMPAOrpheum pic.twitter.com/3v3J6dab6E
— Brandon Martin (@WWNBRANDON) 24 de outubro de 2016
Allin é maluco.
Sabre vs. Yehi optimo, Riddle vs. Hero talvez o MOTY da EVOLVE
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Não tão bom como o último match que tiveram, mas bem porreiro
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